WHY SIMPLY LEAVING CHURCH DOES NOT RECONNECT YOU WITH GOD

 
 
GREETINGS:
 

You may be like thousands of Christians, you thought you could simply leave church and find your own connection to God, and you are beginning to realize that while leaving church solved the problem of disconnecting you with spiritual abuse, it did not connect you with God.

Believes are openly talking about why people are leaving the church and we are looking at some of the dialogue on discussion boards, listening in, getting the heartbeat of the church through pastors, teachers, song leaders, and ordinary, every day Christians.

The poster that we are previewing in this article thinks he has an answer as to why people are leaving the church.  This post was taken from the Strang Board.  The thread on that board addresses pastors and asked the question, "Why are people leaving your church?"

 The poster's name was provided as Antoine Thomas, and this is what he has to say:

 
"Holy greetings and blessings to you in the name our Lord and Savior Jesus 
Christ.  This subject on while people leaves your church was a blessing to me 
and my home.  As I read the article, what jumped out the most was UNBELIEF. 
See, Romans 11:20-21 says, "Well, because of unbelief they were broken off, 
and thou standest by faith.  Be not highstandest, but fear. For if God spared 
not the natural branches, take heed lest he spare not thee."  This is what 
happened to the Isrealites in the Old Testament.  And by us being the New 
Testament Isrealites, we have to learn from the old.  We find ourselves 
listening and living on opinionated statements and doctrine and not the Word 
of God.  We are living on emotions and feelings and not walking faithfully 
unto death (Revelations 2:10).  It starts with their church first (themselves). 
If Jesus Christ is not the head of their church (themselves), then how are they 
able to be a faithful member of any church?  If they cooperate while the 
Spirit of the Lord operates, they will have a successful surgery and be a 
part of God's living organism (The Church).  God bless and Be encouraged 
in the Lord!"
 
 
ANALYSIS:
 
This poster targets unbelief as the problem.  People are leaving the Church because they are lost in 
unbelief.  In order to do a correct analysis we would have to know what constitutes 'believing' and what 
doesn't constitute 'believing'. Then we will know what unbelief is.
 

Are people failing to believe the FUNDAMENTAL knowledge
about Jesus Christ? 

 
Or are they no longer believing the FOUNDATION knowledge 
about Jesus Christ?
 
The poster is quoting from Rom.11:20,21, "Well, because of UNBELIEF they were broken off, and 
you stand by FAITH.  Be not high-minded, but fear."
 
"For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest He also spare not you."
 
In verse 25 we read that, "Blindness in part is happened to Israel."  Here we have a supporting element
of discernment.  Blindness goes hand in hand with unbelief.  Those who are lost in unbelief are also 
spiritually blind.  But this still doesn't help us to know what constitutes unbelief.  Are christians blind 
concerning the fundamental knowledge of Jesus Christ, or are they blind about the foundation 
knowledge of Jesus Christ?
 
Hebrews 3:19 and  4:1-3 helps us to answer the question of what kind of unbelief makes a person 
spiritually blind. "So we see that they could not enter in (the promised land) because of UNBELIEF"
 
"Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into His rest, any of you should 
seem to come short of it."
 
"For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them; but the word preached did not 
profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it."
 
"For we which have BELIEVED to enter into rest....."
 
The kind of UNBELIEF that causes spiritual blindness
       is the kind of UNBELIEF that does not allow 
                          SPIRITUAL PERCEPTION. 
 
Deut.3:35, "Unto you it was SHOWED, that you might know that the Lord He is God; there is 
none else beside Him."
 
Deut.29:4, "Yet the Lord has not GIVEN you a heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to 
hear, unto this day." 
 
God HAD shown Himself in power to the children of Israel through many signs and wonders.  Did 
not Israel PERCEIVE the Egyptians were destroyed?  Did they not SEE the plagues upon Pharaoh 
and his people? Did they not SEE the Red Sea part for them by the word of the Lord, and then 
PERCEIVE that the Red Sea had engulfed their enemies?  Yes, they did see.  What then?  We 
can take note that the children of Israel DID believe the fundamental knowledge of their deliverance. 
 
But they did not perceive that God brought them out of  Egypt and into the wilderness to make 
a covenant with them. They could not PERCEIVE the PURPOSE of their deliverance. 
 
Even so, christians today DO believe the fundamental knowledge of Jesus Christ, that He is the 
Son of God, the Saviour of the word, that He did die for the sins of the world, and rise again from 
the dead on the third day and sent forth the Holy Spirit.  What they DO NOT believe is the foundation 
knowledge.  The foundation knowledge begins to set forth the PURPOSE of our deliverance 
through Jesus Christ.  
 
We read in I Cor.10:6-11 that spiritual blindness began when the people lusted after evil things, 
they were idolaters, they committed fornication, they tempted Christ, they murmured.  Their heart 
was not towards God.  They were our examples so that we could understand that when people 
try to use the truth of God to confirm themselves God will not sanctify them.  The grace of God 
does not work with our own truths about Jesus Christ. 
 
The Israelites thought that their deliverance from bondage centered 
around THEM, but it did not, it centered around God and His plan. The 
Body of Christ is in darkness (ignorance) because people who have 
made a confession of faith in Jesus Christ also do not have a heart 
to perceive their deliverance. 
 
 
They think that the plan of God centers on them just escaping hell.  But the plan of salvation 
centers on God and His redemption through Jesus Christ.  Therefore, there is a responsibility on the part 
of the believer to be joined in covenant with God. 
 
Heb.8:9, "Because they continued not in My covenant, and I regarded them not says the 
Lord." Just because salvation is free does not mean it is free from responsibility.  This is what 
christians do not want to believe.
 
God provided the children of Israel with the power of their deliverance so that they would apply 
themselves with the knowledge that came through Moses; to 'fear' Him, 'serve' Him, and 'cleave' 
unto Him (Deut.10:20).  The children of Israel heard with the physical ear, but not the spiritual ear.  
The children of Israel saw with the carnal eye, but not the spiritual eye. 
 
And so God said of them, "Oh that there were such an heart IN THEM, that they would fear 
me, and keep all my commandments," Deut.5:29.  It was because they did not apply themselves 
to the revelation of God that God did not give them a heart to perceive.
 
We can see clearly that when God 'shows Himself' (grace) there is a responsibility on man's part 
to apply himself. 
 
This is why Jesus said, 
"Behold, I stand at the door 
and knock, if any man hear 
My voice (grace) and open 
the door, I will come in to 
him, and will sup with him, 
and he with me," 
Rev.3:20. 
bullet
He was not speaking of "inviting Jesus into our heart."  
bullet
He was speaking of the yielding of the will to the grace of God
throughout our life.
bulletWe must yield when Jesus is knocking (when grace is present). 
bulletThis is when you will be given a heart to perceive.
 
 We read this again in Hebrews 3:7-9, "Wherefore, as the Holy Ghost says, To-day if you 
will hear His voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation 
in the wilderness.  When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw My works forty years." 
 
The grace that God gives must be responded to in the time it is given.  We cannot go to answer 
the door hours or days after a caller has come knocking, and expect to still find him waiting at the door.
 
God will give the heart to perceive when the will is yielded to grace.  This is called mixing faith with 
the word. Heb.4:2, "For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the 
word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it."
 
This is what the poster seems to be reflecting upon when he said, "We find ourselves listening 
and living on opinionated statements and doctrine and not the Word of God.  We are living on 
emotions and feelings and not walking faithfully unto death."
 
Faith has to be the lifestyle of the righteous, not just a foot in the door of heaven through a confession 
of faith.  But the Church is no longer familiar with the tools and articles of the covenant that God 
established through Jesus Christ.  Therefore they don't know where to find the grace of God and 
have learned how to replace grace with religious rituals which are of no power.  They are now 
living under the persuasion of false knowledge and a false inspiration.
 
The poster ends by saying, "If Jesus Christ is not the head of their church (themselves), then how
are they able to be a faithful member of any church?  If they cooperate while the Spirit of the Lord 
operates, they will have a successful surgery and be a part of God's living organism (The Church)."
 

Let it be known that Jesus' headship is only experienced through (spiritual) government. 

 
This is why the apostle Paul said that the apostles were 'first' in order of government (I Cor.12:28).  
Not first in a carnal sense, but that the headship of Jesus Christ is first seen through the delivery of pure 
doctrine to the Church through apostles (Acts 2:42).   Doctrine first, then function.
 
People are not able to believe the foundation knowledge of Jesus Christ because they no longer 
know what that is.  I agree, the Church HAS been living on the doctrines of those who are not called 
as apostles.  Therefore the BELIEVING of the fundamental knowledge of Christ is not mixed with faith. 
 
Let us heed the warning, "Well, because of UNBELIEF they were broken off, and you stand by 
FAITH.  Be not high-minded, but fear.  For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed 
lest He also spare not you."
 
Let us who are prepared to join God in covenant through our Lord Jesus Christ accept the yoke 
of His knowledge and receive with meekness the engrafted word (the anointing of truth) so that
we can PERCEIVE the purpose of our deliverance and serve God with reverence and godly fear. 
 
We are ROC are prepared to help you reenter the true Church.  The doctrine of Christ that is 
delivered through the apostle Eric is not the doctrine of man.  It is the grace of God that makes 
doctrine divinely inspired, not the vessel. 
 
Strong In His Grace,
Maria / Teacher
R.O.C. Analyst
 

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